Comments on: Why it is meaningless to say you’re proud to be an Indian http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:47:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: somebody http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-15281 somebody Sun, 03 Jul 2011 18:39:43 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-15281 You do know that Barack got that change quote from Ghandi right? Just saying. You do know that Barack got that change quote from Ghandi right?
Just saying.

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]]> By: somebody http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-15280 somebody Sun, 03 Jul 2011 18:37:04 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-15280 Wow, that sort of thing would NEVER happen in America! Wow, that sort of thing would NEVER happen in America!

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]]> By: keta Ladsaongikar http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-15020 keta Ladsaongikar Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:52:02 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-15020 Patrix and Neo, Well they don't force you to dump popcorn bags in the seat so that you can stand up for the national anthem.Standing hurriedly for the national anthem is not to be blamed for such act by our people.And nobody forces you to stand for our national anthem.Its just a gesture to show respect.When the bride walks down the aisle people do stand for her...out of respect...nobody forces them to do so...same is the meaning behind standing for our national anthem. Patrix and Neo,
Well they don’t force you to dump popcorn bags in the seat so that you can stand up for the national anthem.Standing hurriedly for the national anthem is not to be blamed for such act by our people.And nobody forces you to stand for our national anthem.Its just a gesture to show respect.When the bride walks down the aisle people do stand for her…out of respect…nobody forces them to do so…same is the meaning behind standing for our national anthem.

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]]> By: Ankit Gupta http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-14747 Ankit Gupta Sat, 08 Jan 2011 16:26:12 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-14747 Great post. Looks like a kid just got out of the house, decided what's right and wrong and safely went back inside. Dont post such useless blogs if you really dont know what life means. I am a 22 year old to be enginneer who was lying fucked in a hospital three years ago while his dad was reading naxal propaganda because of his commitment to his job. So whoever is the author of this blog understand these three points: 1. Get out of the house and start understanding life. 2. Read. 3. You are a product of shock value. Great post. Looks like a kid just got out of the house,
decided what’s right and wrong and safely went back inside. Dont
post such useless blogs if you really dont know what life means. I
am a 22 year old to be enginneer who was lying fucked in a hospital
three years ago while his dad was reading naxal propaganda because
of his commitment to his job. So whoever is the author of this blog
understand these three points: 1. Get out of the house and start
understanding life. 2. Read. 3. You are a product of shock
value.

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]]> By: fauji http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-14725 fauji Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:31:39 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-14725 Um, being in uniform, I'd say nice one. Unfortunately, what passes for patriotism is pure jingoism. And as regards a patriot dying for his country, let me give you another quote - It is not your duty to die for your country; it's your duty to make sure that the other poor SOB dies for his country. Remember the furore caused by our neta log when Field Marshal Manekshaw (late) remarked - it is a misnomer to think that the average soldier fights for the honor of the country. He fights because he gets 2 meals and a minuscle salary. Any honor is only the honor of the regiment. Um, being in uniform, I’d say nice one. Unfortunately, what passes for patriotism is pure jingoism. And as regards a patriot dying for his country, let me give you another quote –

It is not your duty to die for your country; it’s your duty to make sure that the other poor SOB dies for his country.

Remember the furore caused by our neta log when Field Marshal Manekshaw (late) remarked – it is a misnomer to think that the average soldier fights for the honor of the country. He fights because he gets 2 meals and a minuscle salary. Any honor is only the honor of the regiment.

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]]> By: arunapk57 (Aruna) http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-14720 arunapk57 (Aruna) Sat, 01 Jan 2011 11:57:39 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-14720 RT <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/tantanoo">@tantanoo</a>: Post of the year? http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/ RT @tantanoo: Post of the year? http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/

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]]> By: GhantaGuy (Shivam Sharma) http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-14716 GhantaGuy (Shivam Sharma) Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:58:09 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-14716 "Why it is meaningless to say you're proud to be an Indian" - http://bit.ly/aHQMqf (via <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/tantanoo">@tantanoo</a>) “Why it is meaningless to say you’re proud to be an Indian” – http://bit.ly/aHQMqf (via @tantanoo)

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]]> By: barkhad (barkha deva) http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-14717 barkhad (barkha deva) Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:49:21 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-14717 RT <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/tantanoo">@tantanoo</a>: Post of the year? http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/ RT @tantanoo: Post of the year? http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/

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]]> By: abhic4ever (abhijeet chandwadkar) http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-14718 abhic4ever (abhijeet chandwadkar) Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:42:22 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-14718 +1 RT <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/tantanoo">@tantanoo</a>: Post of the year? http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/ +1 RT @tantanoo: Post of the year? http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/

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]]> By: tantanoo (Shantanu) http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-14719 tantanoo (Shantanu) Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:41:38 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-14719 Post of the year? http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/ Post of the year? http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/

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]]> By: Akshay http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-14704 Akshay Sat, 11 Dec 2010 21:06:43 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-14704 I cleaned my cupboard today, and I found a drawer full of torn/soiled tricolours, which presumably I'd been lifting off roads when younger. I used to roam around the streets usually the day after the celebrations and pick up every tricolour that I found. And they once said I deserved to be paraded on a mule because I'd committed the sin of saying that *some* Pakistani people could be as 'nice' as we are. This is turning into a dumb nation of dumb people, not different from the Americans. And worse, we aren't even in a position where we can screw the rest of the world like they do. I cleaned my cupboard today, and I found a drawer full of torn/soiled tricolours, which presumably I’d been lifting off roads when younger. I used to roam around the streets usually the day after the celebrations and pick up every tricolour that I found.

And they once said I deserved to be paraded on a mule because I’d committed the sin of saying that *some* Pakistani people could be as ‘nice’ as we are.

This is turning into a dumb nation of dumb people, not different from the Americans. And worse, we aren’t even in a position where we can screw the rest of the world like they do.

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]]> By: Natasha http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-14614 Natasha Sat, 16 Oct 2010 04:55:10 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-14614 Wow, spot on. I might be a little late to the post but it pretty much fits with the Commonwealth Games scenario too. Dirty toilets? Bullshit! We Proud Indians just have Different Standards of Hygiene! It's our rich and varied heritage. And we did come up with the "most best" toilet paper in the world ($89 a roll - even Bill would want to bargain). We should be proud of "our" achievements. Proud to be an Indian, aye! Lucky, I mean. Wow, spot on. I might be a little late to the post but it pretty much fits with the Commonwealth Games scenario too. Dirty toilets? Bullshit! We Proud Indians just have Different Standards of Hygiene! It’s our rich and varied heritage. And we did come up with the “most best” toilet paper in the world ($89 a roll – even Bill would want to bargain). We should be proud of “our” achievements.
Proud to be an Indian, aye! Lucky, I mean.

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]]> By: No!! This is how you do it!! | Kay Chan Speaks… http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-14363 No!! This is how you do it!! | Kay Chan Speaks… Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:54:56 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-14363 [...] before another barrage of tests next month before the much awaited Oasis. Last night, I just found this piece of extremely well put piece of writing on the net. Kind of echoes my thoughts. I recommend you read the other posts too not even if you [...] [...] before another barrage of tests next month before the much awaited Oasis. Last night, I just found this piece of extremely well put piece of writing on the net. Kind of echoes my thoughts. I recommend you read the other posts too not even if you [...]

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]]> By: Gokul Sundar http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-14316 Gokul Sundar Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:30:26 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-14316 I am proud to be an Indian. Really good post...one of the most thought provoking kinds. I completely agree "I am proud to be Indian" doesn't make much sense, but I feel that it makes the life of so many people so much easier to think so. As you said earlier "patriotism is the opium for the masses" , perfect. But if this drug does help in making the world a better place I don't find anything wrong in it (although it is misused ) . Thoughts like the world being a single entity without the concept of countries are meaningless. I am sure that even if you set the day to zero and start all over again with Adam and Eve the world would be the same as it is today, because everybody wants everything and there has to be some algorithm to work this over. This is a part of the human evolution, that world would be a better place if it was broken in to countries( its a balance between the world as a whole and everyone taking care of themselves). The reason I say we need patriotism is everyone needs a reason to work. I feel its too complex a thing to explain to a common man that life is too simple. He needs some reason to carry out a work. And that is where you enter these feelings like patriotism. And these feeling are reasonably genuine. For eg. there is nothing wrong in being proud of some guy hitting a century(standard example) since he is representing you( you could have been there instead of hiim). In short, i feel that a person who is patriotic/proud of his country shouldn't be blamed for doing so if it is going to have a positive effect on the world around him. I am proud to be an Indian.
Really good post…one of the most thought provoking kinds.
I completely agree “I am proud to be Indian” doesn’t make much sense, but I feel that it makes the life of so many people so much easier to think so. As you said earlier “patriotism is the opium for the masses” , perfect. But if this drug does help in making the world a better place I don’t find anything wrong in it (although it is misused ) .
Thoughts like the world being a single entity without the concept of countries are meaningless. I am sure that even if you set the day to zero and start all over again with Adam and Eve the world would be the same as it is today, because everybody wants everything and there has to be some algorithm to work this over. This is a part of the human evolution, that world would be a better place if it was broken in to countries( its a balance between the world as a whole and everyone taking care of themselves).
The reason I say we need patriotism is everyone needs a reason to work. I feel its too complex a thing to explain to a common man that life is too simple.
He needs some reason to carry out a work. And that is where you enter these feelings like patriotism.

And these feeling are reasonably genuine. For eg. there is nothing wrong in being proud of some guy hitting a century(standard example)
since he is representing you( you could have been there instead of hiim).

In short, i feel that a person who is patriotic/proud of his country shouldn’t be blamed for doing so if it is going to have a positive effect on the world around him.

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]]> By: ricercar http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-13850 ricercar Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:22:18 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-13850 i havent yet read the whole post, but i love it already. bet you get thrashed for it though. we indians are a bizzarely chauvinistic bunch! i havent yet read the whole post, but i love it already. bet you get thrashed for it though. we indians are a bizzarely chauvinistic bunch!

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]]> By: iVanyaMittal (Vanya Mittal) http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-13795 iVanyaMittal (Vanya Mittal) Sun, 15 Aug 2010 20:06:59 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-13795 RT <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/neo_indian">@neo_indian</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/rbx">@rbx</a> http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/ RT @neo_indian: @rbx http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/

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]]> By: The Butterfly Diaries http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-13794 The Butterfly Diaries Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:20:37 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-13794 Well, Neo surely has tried to incite a debate on Indian -ness. Perhapsthe direction the discussion should take is to ask what we can do for our country and not what our in our country makes us proud of it. Well, Neo surely has tried to incite a debate on Indian -ness. Perhapsthe direction the discussion should take is to ask what we can do for our country and not what our in our country makes us proud of it.

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]]> By: neo_indian (Neo) http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-13791 neo_indian (Neo) Sun, 15 Aug 2010 07:25:34 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-13791 <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/rbx">@rbx</a> http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/ @rbx http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/

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]]> By: Lalit http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-13792 Lalit Sun, 15 Aug 2010 05:50:00 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-13792 Ok I get this. Now what, we go home and play Caroms? Shit, I was so proud to be the flag bearer at my school parade. Now you owe me a proud moment or a milk shake! Ok I get this. Now what, we go home and play Caroms? Shit, I was so proud to be the flag bearer at my school parade. Now you owe me a proud moment or a milk shake!

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]]> By: LaafatLife (Laaf at Life) http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/#comment-13789 LaafatLife (Laaf at Life) Sun, 15 Aug 2010 04:03:00 +0000 http://neoindian.org/?p=2016#comment-13789 <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/neo_indian">@neo_indian</a> What. Have you removed the post: http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/ @neo_indian What. Have you removed the post: http://neoindian.org/2010/02/02/why-it-is-meaningless-to-say-youre-proud-of-being-an-indian/

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